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This page only deals with the deletion of stub types, which consist of a template and a category, and are intended to be used for sorting stubs. Stub templates that are missing categories and stub categories without associated templates are also appropriate here. All other templates or categories nominated for deletion have to be put on WP:TFD or WP:CFD, respectively.

Contents

About this page

Possible reasons for the deletion of a stub type

  • They are not used in any article, and their category is empty
  • They overlap with other stub categories, or duplicate them outright
  • Their scope is too limited - As a rule of thumb, there should be at least 50 appropriate stubs in existence
  • The stub category or template is misnamed. In this case, make this clear when nominating and propose a new category or template name. Note that - in the case of a template but not a category - it may be more appropriate to make it into a redirect

What this page is not for

You should, however, notify the WikiProject Stub sorting of all stub types that are problematic but do not match the criteria for listing here.

Typical voting options

  • Keep (do not delete or modify)
  • Delete (delete template and category)
  • Merge with xx-stub (Delete category, redirect template to xx-stub)
  • Merge with xx-stub without redirect (delete category and template, put xx-stub on all articles that use it)
  • Change scope (reword the template, typically giving it a larger scope. Usually also means renaming the category)
  • BJAODN (add to Biocrawler:Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense)

When voting, please try to give a more substantial reason than simply "I like it/find it useful" or "I dislike it/don't find it useful"

Putting a stub type on SfD, and what happens afterwards

  • Put {{sfd-t}} on the stub template
  • Put {{sfd-c}} on the stub category
  • List the new stub and/or category on Template:sfd-current. This will let several relevant pages know of the nomination
  • List the stub type below in a new subsection at the top of the section which has the current date. If that section does not yet exist, create it.
    • Mention the template as well as the category (if it exists), like this:
      ==== {{tl|banana stub}} / [[:Category:Banana stubs]] ====
    • Also mention how many articles currently use the template, and if it is listed anywhere else.
    • Of course, state your reason for nominating the stub type for deletion!
  • After a voting period of seven days, action will be taken if there is consensus on the fate of the stub type. Please do not act before this period is over.
  • Archived discussions are logged per the instructions at Biocrawler:Stub types for deletion/Log, and are located at Biocrawler:Stub types for deletion/Log/Deleted and Biocrawler:Stub types for deletion/Log/Not deleted.

Listings

June 23rd

{{JP-stub}} (redirect)

Originally a duplicate of {{Japan-stub}}, created by an anon in early April, turned into a redirect in early May, and possibly never used, andcertainly not since it has been a redirect. I say possibly never, because the anon who created it has not worked on any articles about Japan. Unneccessary, poorly named, and if it's never used, why is it here? Grutness...wha? 12:46, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)


June 22nd

{{station-stub}} → {{broadcasting-stub}} / Category:Station stubs

This template, latterly a redirect, was causing trouble with other meanings of the word. It is now orphaned. It had not pointed at the category for some time. Susvolans (pigs can fly) 07:42, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete every ambiguously named stub template, including this one. BlankVerse 08:15, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

{{genital-integrity-stub}}

Proposed on WP:WSS/C, a week after its actual creation; see comments there. No category, no corresonding general category, and very (very, very) few articles ever likely to be in this. Alai 16:20, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete. Overcategorising. --Nabla 00:58, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)
  • Delete as per Alai and Nabla. BTW, this template did not have sfd-t on it, and it wasn't listed on sfd-current - I have fixed. Grutness...wha? 02:01, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Agreed, delete. Shem(talk) 02:03, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete; subject apparently taken seriously. *rolls eyes* --Sn0wflake 02:04, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Circumcise this stub template. BlankVerse 08:15, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Category:Caucasus geography stubs

This was always a tricky category, with many people unsure of what places it referred to. It was intended for geo-stubs from Azerbaijan, Armenia, and Georgia. Armenia and Azerbaijan both have their own categories now, and there are a very small number of Georgia geo-stubs (which have ben moved into the general Europe geography stubs category). Since it's deprecated and no longer of any real use, I propose deletion. Grutness...wha? 06:56, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete, more specific categories available. -- grm_wnr Esc 11:33, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Agreed, delete. Shem(talk) 18:46, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete all confusing stubs templates, including this one. BlankVerse 08:15, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 21st

{{Knot-stub (mathematics)}}

moved from WP:WSS/C, where it was proposed for deletion on May 26

used on 3 articles. Duplicates {{Knot-stub}}, and feeds into the same category.

Now emptied and turned into a redirect. But still too horribly named to survive, IMHO. Grutness...wha?

Many of the (very small number of) knots covered by knot-stub are mathematical rather than the rope type, and there are so few overall that the two can sit together with no real problem. Double stubbing with {{knot-stub}} and {{maths-stub}} is an option, if necessary, too. Grutness...wha? 14:07, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete, both subjects can make use of the same category. --Sn0wflake 01:23, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, far too specific. Duble stub if appropriate. -- grm_wnr Esc 11:35, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, Knot-stub is adequate. Shem(talk) 18:42, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Not enough knots. BlankVerse 08:19, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 20th

{{Nickelodeon-stub}}

  • The template and category have been in existence since March 2005 and there remains <10 articles stubbed to this type.
  • It is unlikely that there will ever be 100 or more articles for this category, which concerns a single cable mini-network.
  • Content can likely be re-stubbed to {{Tv-stub}} (if taken as a program category, which is currently in debate) or {{US-bcast-stub}} (for affiliates and channels).

Courtland 05:00, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)

  • The fact that Nickelodeon means nothing (other than an old name for cinema) outside the US doesn't help. This is overcategoriesation IMO - delete. Grutness...wha? 05:29, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Well to be fair Nickelodeon has channels in about 30 countries so it would be known outside of the US however it is unlikely that it will grow by much so... delete. -- Lochaber 14:27, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Apologies - I didn't realise that, although I have since seen that it is available here in NZ as a Sky channel. Still far too specialised, though. Grutness...wha? 14:07, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Overcategorized. --Idont Havaname 19:22, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, for the reasons cited. —Lifeisunfair 20:02, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, quite popular cable channel in many countries and produces many cartoon shows. Quite a bit of room for expansion. --Sn0wflake 20:23, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, as per above. Just check the "Chuckie Finster" page, and note how many red links there are. Shem(talk) 18:23, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Three is a lot?--Nabla 00:50, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)
  • Delete. Overcategorizing. --Nabla 00:50, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)
  • Delete, unless Sn0wflake and/or Shem can show at least 50 stubs for the category (with no fancruft substubs). BlankVerse 08:23, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

{{Sports-tv-stub}}

  • Template created in late May by an anonymous user signing with a red link.
  • There are two articles in the category that can be appropriately re-stubbed.
  • There might be enough articles for a {{Sports-bcast-stub}} but that would complicate matters by introducing a non-geographical axis to the country-oriented broadcasting stub category family.

Courtland 05:04, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)

  • There was talk of subdividing TV series by genre at one point (see Biocrawler:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Criteria/Archive6#TV_Series_stubs_subdivision, but not TV stations. It was never enacted, and the proposed format of the names was different to this, too. For stations, which this seems to be, it cuts through the current hierarchy, as Courtland says, so I'd be in favour of deleting it. I suspect editors are more likely to search by where they see TV than by proggramme/station type anyway. Grutness...wha? 05:29, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment. Looks like a case of malformed stub type.--Nabla 00:54, 2005 Jun 23 (UTC)

June 19th

{{Canberra suburb stub}} / Category:Suburbs of Canberra (incomplete)

I just discovered this small (25) category has a parent, {{Canberra-stub}} (now on the list), which is also small (22), and is better named both in template and category. Merge with parent -- grm_wnr Esc 20:41, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep: As stated in the stub message itself, these stubs are a tag associated with the Canberra WikiProject, the parent of which is WikiProject Cities. It is only be chance that I watch this stub template and thus discovered that this deletion tag was placed on it. No attempt has been made to notify wikipedians associated with the project that the templates have been nominated for deletion nor suggest the proposed merger to them. The sub-stub has the potential to be used on in excess of 50 articles as there are more than 50 suburbs of Canberra. The project is in progress.--AYArktos 21:34, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep: I noticed this project a little while ago and thought it was a cool idea. My own suburb could be expanded and there are plenty more with interesting histories. Pete 22:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep: fulfills a useful role as part of a wiki city project.--Takver 23:05, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • comment - at the very least this one should be run by the Canberra WikiProject before nything's decided. Which should probably be a general rule for this page anyway - if a stub has an associated wikiproject then something about the proposed deletion should be posted on that project's talk page. As for my vote, it is a small category, but it does seem to be in use, so I'm willing to let it be. I would,however, suggest changing the name of the category to Category:Canberra suburb stubs - the current name is, well, odd. Grutness...wha? 01:30, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, per Grutness' move. Ambi 03:25, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as per Grutness's suggestion.-- Cyberjunkie TALK</sup> 06:04, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Change my vote to keep and rename category. -- grm_wnr Esc 07:27, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and rename. Andreww 08:16, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep as per Gruntness. Shem(talk) 18:41, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    "Gruntness"? Grutness...wha?

June 17th

Rename Category:Movie stubs to Category:Film stubs

The template is already named "film". "Movie" is an Americanism. -- Samuel Wantman 20:46, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The first three votes were moved from WP:CFD. -- Samuel Wantman 20:46, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment - this wasn't listed on Template:sfd-current - I have fixed. Grutness...wha? 23:59, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • This category is 19 pages long. While I support in principle, I doubt editing nearly 4000 stubs is worth it. So subsort first, then propose renaming again. -- grm_wnr Esc 19:49, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Can't this be done with a bot? Is there any need for subsorting? -- Samuel Wantman 19:59, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The renaming could be done by a bot. There will come a point when this category needs subsorting though (hey, good neologism!), since ideally stub categories should only be 2 or 3 pages long. Grutness...wha? 01:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Why? You can see any letter using the TOC. Previous to Category TOC's size was a problem. Why is it still a problem? How and why would it be subsorted? What is the need? -- Samuel Wantman 06:56, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

apologies for the accidental deletion of this comment! Grutness...wha?

  • Keep as is until the size becomes manageable. Courtland 05:06, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)
  • Rename; I am happy to make available my bot for making the move, if desired. James F. (talk) 20:08, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Rename. Note to bot operators: once the template is changed, the category can be populated with null edits. Susvolans (pigs can fly) 11:03, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Rename for both consistency and the avoidance of "Americanism." Shem(talk) 18:39, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

{{Grisons-geo-stub}} (redirect)

Currently redirecting to {{Switzerland-geo-stub}} and orphaned, this was originally a geo-stub for one canton of Switzerland (Grisons). I don't think that Switzerland's ready for splitting yet... Grutness...wha? 10:42, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • Keep. Redirects are harmless. Vik Reykja 16:06, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. --Sn0wflake 21:00, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. --Nabla 02:45, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)
  • Delete Not useful to have this around as an orphan. Alai 02:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete BlankVerse 09:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Shem(talk) 18:34, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)


June 16th

{{Biostub}} (redirect)

  • template misnamed ("stub" not preceded by a hyphen)
  • template redirects to {{Bio-stub}}
  • template has not been orphaned (unknown number of associated articles)
    used on 79 articles. Grutness...wha?
  • apparently no associated category to delete

Courtland 12:39, 2005 Jun 16 (UTC)

  • Delete, for all the reasons mentioned above. With bio-stub being as big as it is, the less detritus around it, the better. --TheParanoidOne 12:57, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, we simply cannot afford to create a meaningless fork of bio-stub. --Sn0wflake 01:30, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. Redirects are harmless. Vik Reykja 16:07, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete redirects are more work for both sorters and servers. Grutness...wha? 19:34, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. As per Grutness. --Nabla 02:49, 2005 Jun 19 (UTC)
  • How many articles does this concern? If it's small, or can be take care of via bot, etc, then go ahead and delete. Alai 02:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    See note above. Grutness...wha?
  • Delete. BlankVerse 09:46, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Shem(talk) 18:33, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I went through the list and subcategorized most of it. Only eleven remain, and those can be dumped into bio-stub, I guess. --Joy [shallot] 13:27, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Unfinished business

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